![]() I don't feel like repeating this discussion 50 times everytime someone wants to fight me on this. Nothing on WP:AIR is policy it's all guidelines it's a project to achieve some consistency across aircraft pages. I'm not citing policy and never claimed to be, I'm referring to a central discussion. Its appearance in the Hulk isn't very incisive. People come to this page to learn about the aircraft. I doubt they would be here if they were wondering what it was called. (rip on Wings of the Apache, the alternate title to Fire Birds) - Mmx1 22:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC) Reply "What was in that movie" questions should be resolved on the movie page. If we give it the alternate title "Wings of the Comanche" I might see the logic in including it. Supercoop 21:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC) Reply It was probably a more faithful adaptation of the Comanche than the comic books. I see you already deleted it again without trying to resolve it - shhaaammmme. By the way WP:AIR has nothing on Fictional Appearances so quite trying to site policies to support your claim. Anyway there are very few occurrences of the vehicle which isn't too detrimental in having a few lines about its appearances. You need to work on the wiki policy and get consensus instead deleting stuff because you don't like it. Mmx1 20:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC) Reply People that actually worked on the Comanche watched the Hulk movie only because the vehicle was in the show - it was a big deal to them and it may be relevant if someone asks "what was that in the movie". But cameo appearances and arcade game appearances are not relevant. I'll even look up the few commanche sims. Look, if there's a commanche version of Top Gun or even the abysmally bad Firebirds where it's featured, I'll include it. Najica Blitz Tactics: cameo appearance in anime.Battlefield, Ace Combat, Jungle Strike: arcade sims with a commanche skin.CC Generals, Act of War: RTS games with a helicopter unit that looks like the Commanche.Hulk: 60-second fight scene with a big green mutant.Insofar as games go accurate or semi-accurate simulations contribute to the knowledge about the aircraft itself, so those go here as well. I don't think anyone's perception of the commanche, LAV, M1, F-15, or Bradley IFV was remarkably changed by the 30-60 second clips in the movie. War of the Worlds (spielberg remake) was a grossly popular film. Secondly, it has to be featured in the movie. Hate to break it to the fans, but that the F-18 made an appearance in your favorite anime.doesn't do very much for the F-18. For a piece of pop culture to have impact, it needs a)to be popular - anime and games.not so much. Not quite so similarly "Firebirds" popularized the Apache. Prime example: "Top Gun" defined the F-14 as "naval fighter" in the public's mind. The intent of Popular culture is not to document the airframe's cameo roles in movies, but to document works of popular culture that have defined or changed the public's perception of it. It's equivalent to a fictional representation, and unless you want to include every "well, if you removed an engine and painted it green instead of purple it's would look sort of like an F-15" reference, the speculation and the cosmetic appearances are out. Regarding video games, the vast majority of arcade games bear no resemblence to the actual plane outside of cosmetic looks. How about listing all the movies where the HUMMER made an appearance? It adds NOTHING to an article about an aircraft to know it made a 30-second appearance in a movie. To summarize my arguments: wikipedia is not a trivia clearinghouse. People mostly disagreeing? I have one disagreement and 4 in agreement, and we've hammered out an outline of guidelines to pop-culture references. It's not policy, it's a centralized discussion so we don't have to debate it on every aircraft page. I deleted a variety of fancruft as per discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Popular_Culture. I heard that the Sweedish Army may have plans to buy 5 or more Comanches, Has anyone heard anything about this? Was that a computer graphic or the real thing? I saw the Comanche on a episode of Law and Order. Surely this is relevent,as i am under the impression that the RAH-66 is capable of that? I cannot help but notice the lack of references to snaprolling,the ability to turn on its side. ![]() Uh.it already is (see last paragraph). :) RadicalBender 03:57, (UTC) Snaprolling Someone knowledgeable on this topic needs to incorporate this news item into this article. 23 No mention of General Shinseki in the article?.21 Aircraft in use today by the Night Stalkers.
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